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LIVEBLOG Day 4—Juniors make tough decisions

Two big questions many juniors will debate: 1) if they drop down, what singles (if any) can they get?, 2) should they drop to Junior Regroup. Follow along! Liveblog, Whiteboard, below.

4:30 p.m. The final counts for the day are up, and Nussbaum walkthroughs and EC doubles - both popular options for sophomores - only have one of each remaining. Nine Claremont 7's remain, meaning that every mixed-point group and most sophomore groups will be able to pick in. The same is true for Plimpton 6's. It's been a crazy day so far. This has been Eric, Christian, and Sean, signing off for the Shaft.

4:22 p.m. The last group enters the cage and the floor plans come down. The day is winding down, and as the dust settles, it looks like today's picks could have some unfortunate consequences for sophomore groups. The last pick is Nussbaum 4D-3 - they're "living large," and "it's the purr-fect room, like a cat."

4:19 p.m. Interviewing a Schapiro walkthrough open-housing pair, Eric asks them if they're satisfied. "Mmm...you could say, no."

4:16 p.m. Two more Nussbaum walkthroughs are gone, and with mixed-point groups set to pick, Nussbaum walkthroughs may not make it to sophomores. Schapiro 1407 and Broadway 1222 are also taken. A girl seemingly tries to rip the boards off their hinges in frustration. Wien 542 is gone.

4:12 p.m. One Nussbaum walkthrough, a Wien walkthrough, and an EC double are taken, meaning that 613 is the last room in all of EC. More Schapiro picks incoming - 1305. "What's left?" "Watt is NOT left." Very punny, Housing.

4:08 p.m. Schapiro 1307, a Broadway double, and three more EC doubles! It's possible EC could be wiped out in the next few minutes as more groups enter the cage.

4:05 p.m. A Wien walkthrough and a Broadway double are gone. A group that picked Schapiro earlier said they'd just do Summer Transfer. Maybe these people thinking similarly.

4:01 p.m. Watt 1M and 3M go at the same time. WATT IS GONE GONE GONE. I feel like a used car salesman. Popular picks seem to be Schapiro walkthroughs and EC doubles. Groups can also pick into Wien and Nussbaum walkthroughs.

3:58 p.m. Schapiro 907! More walkthroughs! These people will be very disappointed. Impulse decisions galore. Ruggles girls are having "a religious-themed party" the first weekend to celebrate. What does that mean? "We have no fucking idea!" Are they happy? "Now we can, like, drink." Happy endings for some here at Regroup.

3:56 p.m. Schapiro 1507 (another walkthrough) and Watt 3A. They tell us only 1M and 3M are left. With several people left to picking, many will be going home unhappy. Lax bro is insatiable in his hunger for Watt.

3:53 p.m. Watt 2A and 2M are gone. Only 3 Watt doubles left!

3:52 p.m. BREAKING: 3 EC DOUBLES GO! 605, 607, and 609. Private bathrooms and the EC aesthetic win over Watt. They wanted to live on the same floor.

3:50 p.m. Eric says that with only six mixed-point groups and seemingly no Claremont suites going during regroup, Claremont 7's will make it to all-sophomore groups again. Ruggles girls continue to celebrate.

3:47 p.m. The Ruggles woo girls finally get their suite. (Pretty hard not to - they were the only 8-person group.) "Is this really necessary?" asks a Bwog editor. Yes, it's housing. 6 Watts left.

3:45 p.m. Apparently, the group of boys tricked the girls into thinking they were going for Ruggles, and the girls were crying out in despair that the boys got the suite first. Really playing with people's emotions. Watt 5M goes. We're in the single digits for these studio doubles now.

3:40 p.m. Watt 1G, 4A, and 1B! A group of girls begins screaming in genuine euphoria. It seems as though the group of 8 girls has beaten a group of 8 guys for Ruggles. A 16th-floor Schapiro walkthrough double goes!

3:38 p.m. Another number is drawn. "YEAH!" accompanied with fist-pumping.   Watt 4G and 4M are taken off the board.

3:35 p.m. We asked the first pair of Regroup what they were doing to celebrate. "Umm, go to class?" Meanwhile, lots of groans of disappointment behind the boards.

3:32 p.m. An announcement was just made that groups only have three minutes in the cage. Watt 6M goes in the confusion. As lottery numbers are drawn, people scream "FUCK!" "NO!" loudly. One exasperated sigh. Lots of feelings here, folks.

3:28 p.m. Watt 5G goes to a group of two. Not many eight or seven-person groups, it seems. Last year 5 Claremont 7's went during Regroup.

EDIT: The pair was not part of Regroup. They were just deliberating in the cage for a while.

3:24 p.m. Three members of one group: "We're just gonna stay optimistic." "No, we're not!" "I'm crying on the inside..."

3:21 p.m. Lots of pairs. The typical picks are Watt, Claremont, Wien walkthroughs, and Nussbaums with a private bathroom. One more minute!

3:20 p.m. A pic of the mayhem. 

3:17 p.m. Some screaming going on outside the lounge. Housing - one place where it's okay not to use your inside voice. Meanwhile, a group of girls laughs loudly, seemingly out of genuine panic. Three more minutes until the first number is drawn.

3:14 p.m. A group that was hoping for a Ruggles 4-person deliberates on their choices in Watt. Meanwhile, a group of six unanimously selects Schapiro over Watt. Will we see our first McBain pick? Stay tuned.

3:10 p.m. And that's it until Regroup. Choice picks will be a Ruggles 8, three Plimpton 6's, and 17 Watt studio doubles. The group of juniors is growing larger, and Regroup will be its largest since 2012! (Housing's words, not mine...)

3:04 p.m. 2918, a group of football players, takes the second-to-last Ruggles on the 1st floor! They said to call it "The Dish," but it sounds more like "The Dench." They picked the suite close to the RA because of easy access and the big walkthrough double.

3:02 p.m. 2911 takes a Ruggles 8 on the 3rd floor! Only two left! Eric is questioning why the bros in the other group picked the 1st floor instead.

2:58 p.m. Christian Zhang joins us manning the whiteboards. More people come to Eric for advice. What's it like being assigned a roommate? In other news, Bwog and I have made nearly identical comments on the gaggle of bros. What's taking them so long? It'd be tragic to see a bromance end in front of us.

2:53 p.m. A group of eight bros enters the cage. "We'll do it live!" Another Ruggles suite is down.

2:50 p.m. A junior comes to Eric with a housing crisis! Looks like Broadway, River, or Schapiro is the new EC, Heights, or Campo. Meanwhile, the rumble going on behind the boards has turned into a low groan as juniors prep for regroup.

2:45 p.m. First Claremont 7 down! 2862 - apparently, "it was planned." Nice to see some plans work out today. Meanwhile, the guy with the lacrosse stick is practicing very conspicuously.

2:42 p.m. 20/2865 takes Watt 1H. Never even thought of Wien. Meanwhile, Bwog cracks open a window.

2:39 p.m. 20/2847 picks Watt 2B. Only 18 left. As for Ruggles 8's, only 3 are left with 3 groups still to pick. One group seems to be in the cage deliberating.

2:35 p.m. Sean here taking over for Emma. Update on Plimpton suites: Housing officials confirm that all three are making it into Regroup. They're curious as to when they'll be picked - they could last well into sophomore selection, or even into General, in which case they'd be assigned during Summer Transfer.

2:32 p.m. A 2nd floor Ruggles 8-person is officially taken. One guy in the group is wearing a shirt that says "Choose Wisely." Preach. #housing And now I'm off to history lecture...it's been real. I'll be taking my Freaky Friday soundtrack away from here/judgment. Giving over the reins to Eric!

2:29 p.m. Housing god Eric Feder has arrived! And a group of two picks into a Wien walkthrough. And another Ruggles 8-person will be down momentarily.

2:26 p.m. Another two-person group just took a Nussbaum walkthrough. "One of the nice ones," one of the girls explains. 20/2634 takes Watt 2J.

2:21 p.m. Oh boy...Genius decided to play an A*Teens cover of Elvis' "Can't Help Falling in Love." I can feel the judgment burning my chest. Actually, that might just be all the sugar.

2:19 p.m. It's also worth mentioning that the music is coming from my iPhone. Meaning my iPhone is currently unsupervised over on the other side of the lounge. Maybe I shouldn't say this publicly...but I am a little nervous. I don't want people sending vulgar snapchats from my phone or whatever the kids do when they're bored.

2:17 p.m. 20/2549 just took Watt 3E. I really bothered my roommate the other day by forcing her to look at pictures and floorplans of Watt. "Can we live there?" she asked. "Next year," I reassured her. She was pretty pissed. (Also, I've put on "Juliet" by LMNT, cementing my position as a cool kid.)

2:14 p.m. Oh boy. The BSB has gotten obscure and slow. Time for a trip over to the DJ booth.

2:13 p.m. "I Want it That Way" -- thanks, shuffle! Two guys just picked into Nussbaum 4A-1 -- a walkthrough with a private bathroom. They aren't frequenters of Nussbaum & Wu, but they will be soon.

2:11 p.m. I've eaten a little too much candy and it's making me want to start doing interpretive dance. Let me show you the shape of my heart, blog-readers.

2:08 p.m. Bwog described the music playing earlier as "Top 40 hits from 2 years ago." ACTUALLY, Bwog, it's from THREE years ago. CIT summer 2010 foreva.

2:07 p.m. A&E Deputy Emma Finder here! Re the DJ'ing issue: I've put on all my Backstreet Boys, so hopefully that will tide us over for a while. A group just picks into Ruggles 301-307 and seems sufficiently pleased.

2:02 p.m. As Katy Perry's "Hot and Cold" plays, two girls just chose Watt 4A, which is a step up from their "tiny, tiny" Broadway double. And with that, I'm out. It's been real, liveblog. Taking over for me is one Emma Finder. Will she able to balance her DJ duties with blogging? Will junior regroup be like the scene in Titanic where all the passengers try to escape their inevitable doom by clambering up the deck? Will my essay be done by 7 p.m.? Only time will tell.

1:57 p.m. A really uncooperative guy just chose the last Symposium double.

1:53 p.m. Emma puts on 3Oh!3's "Don't Trust Me." I feel like the lyrics "don't trust a ho" are problematic.

1:48 p.m. Winter  has come and there are very few people choosing right now. Emma is rewriting Maroon 5's "Misery" to be about housing. "I am on McBain 3."

1:41 p.m. DJ EFindz is spinning some Ke$ha. Housing's love is the opposite of people's drug. Apparently most larger junior groups are dropping to Online selection. One Ruggles 8-person suite will probably make it to junior regroup.

1:35 p.m. There's a picnic going on between the housing boards. Apparently they're dropping to Online Selection but don't feel like leaving. Also Bwog has like, every kind of candy and three sodas. #hoarders

1:31 p.m.  Expanding on the Game of Thrones thing, everyone who takes the black and lives in Harmony has to take a vow of celibacy, if only out of necessity. Nobody wants to go Harmony. Plus, they're our last defense against everything that lies below 110th St.

1:26 p.m. Carroll and her new roommate choose Watt 6G. They're "so super excited" about the kitchen. "I don't want to have the stupid dining plan," she said.

1:21 p.m. I've decided to call the remainder of housing Game of Homes because when you play it you either win or die. Harmony is The Wall, and EC is King's Landing. Woodbridge is Winterfell, because that's where I'm living and I want a direwolf. There's a lot less incest involved in the Game of Homes, obvi.

1:17 p.m. Carroll Gelderman, A&E Film and TV associate is choosing housing right now. Also two people just chose a Watt Studio double. They seem excited to be living somewhere with a kitchen.

1:10 p.m. Bwog is offering people stickers. As if housing isn't rough enough, these poor people have to throw away Bwog's stickers for them.

1:05 p.m. David here! Liveblogging away the fact that I have a scene analysis due at 7 p.m. If anyone has read Elmer Rice's The Adding Machine and has some thoughts about scene II, hit me up. Two people just chose into Wien 1925—it's their second year in Wien. At least it isn't Harmony, right?

1:03 p.m. David takes over for the liveblogging. I tell him about the group in the cage's difficult decision. His thoughts? "Well, it's a choice between a piece of shit and a different piece of shit. It's the 2004 election all over again." And the group's piece of shit choice? Wien 942 - a walkthrough.

1:00 p.m. I'm joined by A&E Weekday Deputy David Salazar and A&E Online Deputy Emma Finder. Laughs coming from the cage. Did they pick into the Shaft?

12:58 p.m. A group of two enters the cage! They don't know what building to pick into! Let's see if they make an interesting decision.

12:57 p.m. Housing tells me that many groups have dropped to Regroup or General, likely in the hope of getting Watt. However, if the day continues as it has, they may be in for some disappointment. In other news, the Bwog liveblogger and I have yet to make eye contact. Really hurting from the loss of CU Admirers.

12:44 p.m. Some photos of the new Ruggles basement. It's not quite as nice as the renovated Carman basement, but it's hard to top a fountain and a wall made of plants.

12:33 p.m. One important difference from Days 2 and 3 - Cow Tails are back!...yeah, there's not much going on.

12:24 p.m. Sean (Shaft affiliate) here, taking over for Gina. It's lunch break,so it's pretty quiet. One group of girls who seem to be on the track team are mulling over dropping to general. I ask them their lottery number. "About 1900."  Tough choice. Unfortunately, Wien won't be getting any renovations this summer.

12:00 p.m. Fellow Speccies Luke (deputy photo editor) and Luke (associate news editor) took Watt 6A to round out the morning. They say hello to the world. And I (Gina, left here all alone) say goodbye! We'll be back after lunch.

11:58 a.m. Watt 4D taken.

11:48 a.m. Gina is interrupting my air guitar solo to remind me to let you know that Wien 206 and 207 have been taken.

11:47 a.m. ROCKING OUT to Journey.

11:46 a.m.  20/1832 took 3J Watt. He was very articulate. Ready to tell us what room he's in. Gina says that people need to expand their housing opinions. "I ask them if they're happy and they say 'sure,' and then I'm like whatever go home." (Gina's actually a great reporter, FYI.)

11:37 a.m. 4E Watt taken.

11:34 a.m. I wonder if the housing people like karaoke. These are all karaoke-ready songs. As soon as I leave they're going to bust out the karaoke, aren't they?

11:31 a.m. Shapiro 830 taken by 20/1775.

11:28 a.m. Nussbaum 10A1 is also gone.

11:27 a.m. 20/1606 just took the walkthrough mezzanine Harmony double. They chose it because "it's right by Westside, and all the alcohol."

11:18 a.m. Update on the candy situation: eight wrappers and one Gina, who is astounded at the prospect of individually-wrapped Sour Patch Kids. If you're reading this liveblog, you should stop and go outside. It's beautiful! (Don't do that, though. Stay.)

11:08 a.m. Finally, music! I need more candy. Gina Lee, BC '14, is here to help now. "What's going on?" she says. "I don't even go here."

10:59 a.m. Watt 5E taken by 20/1637. Ruggles 221 and 222 (I think) are taken also. Another RA and RA rider, 20/1652.

10:56 a.m. Watt 5H and 5J gone.

10:55 a.m. 20/1603 just took Watt 2H. He's pleasantly surprised that he got it with his lottery number. Aww. Congrats!

10:47 a.m. Ruggles 621 and 622 taken by 20/1525. (That's the RA and the RA rider suite.)

10:45 a.m. Watt 6E taken by 20/1547. They're happy to be near their friends. "We're down to THIRTY SEVEN studio doubles," David announces.

10:41 a.m. I think the girls who took Watt 5D were more excited to get a Watt sticker than they were to get a Watt room.

10:39 a.m. Watt 5D, a studio double, is gone, as well as an 8-person suite on the fifth floor of Ruggles.

10:31 a.m. 20/1523 just took Nussbaum 10D. She's very happy because it has views of the Hudson. David creeping on the floor plan says that the bathroom is yellow.

10:29 a.m. 20/1513 questioning why they need a sticker from Bwog. "Why do we need a Watt sticker?"

10:28 a.m.Watt 6D taken by 20/1513. Happy about the room? "Sure..."

10:27 a.m. Abby and David are discussing the difference between housing selection at Barnard - no candy - and housing selection at Columbia. Abby: "Just because we backstab doesn't mean we shouldn't get candy. And there are fewer colorful signs."

10:18 a.m. Last Woodbridge room taken! The cut-off was 20/1446. The guy who took it says, "Not bad, I guess." David is wondering about the logistics of walking through the bedroom to get to the bathroom. All the tough questions.

10:14 a.m. Pretty quiet here. David has asked like six questions about the Sour Patch Kids. Including "Why is this in my mouth?" and "Why are these individually packaged?"

10:09 a.m. Jillian Kumagai taking over with student life deputy extraordinaire Abby Abrams and candy sampler David Brann. He is here to eat candy.

10:03 a.m. Although this seems kind of early for Broadway to get taken, the first one was actually taken by a junior-senior pair last year.

10:01 a.m. FIRST BROADWAY ROOM HAS BEEN TAKEN!

10:00 a.m. 20/1408 takes Watt 6H. They comment, "We just wanted a big double. It's not as 276 [the K-line] but it's a good line!"

9:57 a.m. WOAH! A GROUP JUST TOOK THE MURDER SUITE! And they're thrilled about it!

9:54 a.m. A Ruggles eight-person suite on the 6th floor has been taken. We asked if they were happy, but they actually seemed kind of disappointed and glumly said "it's alright." Not sure what else they were hoping for as an eight-person group. In other years, they would have just been sneaking in before the cutoff so they should consider themselves lucky to have had so many options available in the building.

9:53 a.m. Going on 20 minutes now with no one exiting the cage.

9:50 a.m. Alright, we may need to work on better teasers for Shaft liveblogging.

9:48 a.m. One thing we'll keep an eye on is whether groups try to stay away from the Ruggles murder suite, especially as their other options dwindle. Will the creepiness of what happened there outweigh the desire to avoid the first floor or living next to an RA? Tune in to find out!

9:47 a.m. A large group is now headed into the cage. They're the first ones to enter in the last 15 minutes or so. Presumably, they'll be taking a Ruggles eight-person suite.

9:46 a.m. Speaking of which, we've failed to introduce ourselves thus far. Eric Feder, liveblogging, alongside Salonee Bhaman.

9:44 a.m. Shollenberger is now being taken a tour of the whole set up here, and flashes us livebloggers a friendly smile.

9:42 a.m. Joyce Jackson, Scott Wright, and Kevin Shollenberger are in John Jay lounge, admiring the sketches they have up for the new Ruggles basement.

9:39 a.m. A brief note: there's still one Woodbridge room left -- Room 4G. No one has picked into Woodbridge for a while though, since most consider 4G to be far less desirable than the best of the studio doubles. This is one of the many reasons why cutoffs can be misleading without a context. The Woodbridge cutoff is certain to be later than 20/1400 this year, the latest cutoff in recent history, but the reality is that all of the "good" options are long gone already.

9:35 a.m. Over the course of the day, we expect to see a steady stream of juniors picking into Watt and the remaining Ruggles suites. Then, at around 3:15, the steady stream will transform into a massive mob with the start of Junior Regroup. The Regroupers will likely finish off Watt along with a number of Claremont suites. In addition, they'll take the best off the non-studio doubles, so expect a bunch of Nussbaum and Broadway to be taken as well.

9:33 a.m. Watt 4J is off the board next, selected by 20/1241. They were hoping for Watt from the very start, and were just hoping for a room with some sunlight.

9:28 a.m. First selection of the day was Watt 1K, the last of the K-lines. The group was a bit hesitant to take the 1st floor, but deemed the K-line desirable enough to go from it. They're currently living in Nussbaum and Wallach, so they consider this a big step up.

9:27 a.m. Housing is starting a little bit early today, as the first group is about to exit the cage already.

9:20 a.m. Aaaaaand we're back. Did you miss us?

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VERY important question posted on

What's the lowest floor you can get in Schapiro without getting a north-facing shaft??

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editor posted on

I have no idea. - Mikey

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efeder posted on

13 maybe?

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editor posted on

They're accurate and we make sure ours match at the end of the day. During selection, we update the rooms taken as well.

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'16 posted on

do you think any of the -28 or -30 line doubles in Schapiro (the ~200 sq ft ones) will be left at the end of tomorrow?

PS all y'all bloggers are the best! love the staff of #theshaft

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editor posted on

Probably—last year both cut off at around the 10/1800 range. I'd say 80-20 there'll be at least one left. - Mikey

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Dropped Juniors posted on

How would you suggest rishing Juniors w/ different lotto numbers group up during General? Like one group with 20/500s and another with low 20/1000s? Related note: when should we expect General Selection advice?

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editor posted on

GenSel advice will come in about 1.5 weeks (when the GenSel lottery #s come out). Online Selection is an individual process—not sure what you mean by group up.

Perhaps choosing to live with people with a different lotto #? If so, the only way to do it is to pick at the later time and pray the options are still there. - Mikey

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Anonymous posted on

I think the OP is asking from the perspective of someone in general selection not someone dropping down!

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Doesn't really matter for me but posted on

The bottom of the "whiteboard" (Watt and below) is being cut off, just so you guys know

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efeder posted on

It's looking okay to us -- try refreshing or clearing your cache. Is anyone else having problems?

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Doesn't really matter for me but posted on

Clearing the cache did it! Thanks

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Anonymous posted on

How are the Nussbaum A-1-line walk-through doubles (do these face the street)? Better or worse than the smaller Watt doubles?

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efeder posted on

The A-1 line does face Broadway, although it is set back from the street itself. See this Street View picture -- http://bit.ly/11Jdzoy -- they're the rooms at the back of the "shaft".

If you don't care about having a private kitchen, they probably are preferable to Watt.

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Anon posted on

Will the new Ruggles basement be finished in time for the 2013-2014 school year?

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efeder posted on

Yes, that's the plan. Of course, the EC turnstiles were going to be finished in time for this school year...

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THAT BITCH posted on

SHE JUST TOOK MY NUSSBAUM ROOM IN 10D WHAT THE HELL

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Smited 5 person group posted on

Anybody else think housing should allow regroup after every point value, not just senior and jr? Really screws over mixed groups.

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efeder posted on

That would be a bit of a logistical nightmare, but I've never quite understood why 20-something point groups can't participate in Junior Regroup. The system as it is now definitely discourages mixed-point groups, and I'm not quite sure why they have it like that. Also, there's going to be a bunch of mixed junior-sophomore groups in a lot of trouble if/when they miss out on Claremont. I agree they should figure out a better solution.

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editor posted on

It's the trade-off for being able to pick before all the members of the following class, assuming you didn't split point values. If you're in such a group, there's always Summer Transfer (unless you're a sophomore, in which case you should count your blessings at getting a single.)

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efeder posted on

True, although that's only from the perspective of the younger group members. From the perspective of the older group members, they're just getting screwed from all directions.

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2700 posted on

Why are people taking schapiro already omg

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efeder posted on

Yeah, it's weird. In the previous two years, no one took Schapiro before the 10-point round. Maybe that group was just excited about the renovations?

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omg posted on

Why are you even posting this, goddamnit? Let them wallow in Schapiro misery and leave Watt and Ruggles' gloriousness for me in Regroup.

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efeder posted on

Let's be honest: If they're taking Schapiro, they're probably not meticulously reading our comments section...

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Anonymous posted on

Or they had friends who were hoping to later pick into it...

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efeder posted on

Yeah, you're right. Sorry to be overly sarcastic.

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Anonymous posted on

Wien 1925 isnt a real room...

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editor posted on

It's been newly added to the floor plans in place of the much more pedestrian Wien 925.

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Nervous rising junior posted on

So when people drop down to general selection, are lottery numbers refigured? if someone with a lottery number higher than yours drops down, do they get to pick before you do, even if you signed up for general selection?

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editor posted on

Nope, you keep your original number (even if you did Regroup and ended up not picking a room). Yes, general selection is done by seniority and lottery regardless of what you originally chose.

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Nervous rising sophomore posted on

Is the Whiteboard 100% accurate at the end of each day? Or do some people not tell you what room they chose?

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efeder posted on

By the end of the day, I'd say we usually do have the counts nearly accurate -- within 1 or 2. That's because we usually have a chance to check our counts against Housing's before they put everything away. We're more likely to be off by a bit in the middle of the day when things get crazy since we do miss some groups here and there.

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